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Rujuta Ghate
09-15-2013 04:19 PM

Delta VFD with PLC controls

Hello I am using  VFD-EL series drive of Delta. My application requires setting of VFD speed through HMI. The PLC i am using is Jazz model T17 of Unitronics. What are the various ways we can achieve it
09-15-2013 06:45 PM
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Kunal Utekar
09-15-2013 06:45 PM
it can be done with modbus.
09-15-2013 09:09 PM
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Wellington Fernando Ribeiro Santos
09-15-2013 09:09 PM
You can use Modbus RTU Or Ethernet/RS485 converter card.
09-15-2013 11:25 PM
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vance newman
09-15-2013 11:25 PM
You can also use 4 - 20/-10-10 ma/dc via PLC to your hmi.. Be careful when using communication as you need to consider drive state when communication fails..
09-16-2013 02:12 AM
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vance newman
09-16-2013 02:12 AM
Please stay away from Modbus as Modbus usually does not have good communication status information out of the box.....
09-16-2013 05:05 AM
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Wellington Fernando Ribeiro Santos
09-16-2013 05:05 AM
Mrs Rujuta, your PLC communication isn't available to Ethernet, Profibus,Devicenet, in this case you need to buy a Add-On Module and then you will can use Modbus, this protocol is available for Jazz T17. Please read this brochure.
http://www.unitronics.com/Downloads/Support/Technical%20Library/Jazz%20Hardware/Jazz%20-%20Specifications/JZ10-11-T10_JZ10-11-T17_TECH-SPEC_02-06.pdf
09-16-2013 07:48 AM
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Ian Narinesingh
09-16-2013 07:48 AM
Yes..I agree with Wellington...the VFD-EL supports modbus by default and the HMI/PLC unit (Jazz) supports modbus via an add-on module. I'd prefer to use a 4-20mA output from the Jazz to the VFD, but the T17 does not seem to support analog outputs...I don't see how else this can be easily done by using the equipment that you specified.
09-16-2013 10:12 AM
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vance newman
09-16-2013 10:12 AM
As to Ian's comment.. "No Analog Output" You can use 2 digital outputs to drive 2 programmed inputs on the drive. The first drive inputs will be programmed as "Increase Speed" the other as "decrease speed". You would then use the outputs to increase or decrease speed. No need for analog out on the PLC.
09-16-2013 12:37 PM
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Rujuta Ghate
09-16-2013 12:37 PM
Thank you for your help.
09-16-2013 03:23 PM
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Ed Driscoll
09-16-2013 03:23 PM
Only as a very, very last resort, as your existing equipment seems so limited.
You could take a R2R resistor ladder and drive it with dry contact outputs,
or digital sink/source outputs driving relays to get the dry contacts. If you are real
creative you can see how it would be possible to get 64 different voltage
divider combinations, driving 0-10V input or the 4-20ma analog for 64 drive speed
references, from only 8 discrete dry contact outputs configured as a mux
switch array selecting the resistor you will develop the O/P voltage off,
or the 4-20 thru, whatever the case.

(I have used 4 dry O/P's on a dumb omron shoebox plc to drive 8 drive speeds,
thru the 0-10v speed ref into the drive. I used 8 pots instead of fixed resistors
so you get 8 different fully adjustable "dials" speeds from 4 O/P's only of the PLC)
09-16-2013 05:31 PM
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M. Shabbir Mughal
09-16-2013 05:31 PM
good way is 0-10v control for el drive or any vfd control signal. i nothing knows about ur plc Jazz. but mostly plc r using analog out module for vfd operation. it is simple way to drive vfd.
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